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Is this a cybernetic tyrrany we live in?
01-13-2011, 11:08 AM
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Is this a cybernetic tyrrany we live in?
Are we all really powerless as things may seem? Is security getting air tight, suffocating us? Or, is it the same joke every bureaucracy is? And is our economic and political condition a Catch-22?

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/tech/argo...54464.html
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02-04-2011, 08:04 AM
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RE: Is this a cybernetic tyrrany we live in?
“Here is my final point. About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else. What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?” - Bill Hicks
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02-04-2011, 02:05 PM
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RE: Is this a cybernetic tyrrany we live in?
(02-04-2011 08:04 AM)jack_black_91 Wrote:  “Here is my final point. About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else. What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?” - Bill Hicks

Bill Hicks has a point, but I didn't find it funny. Sorry, no offense. I'm not a big fan of Hicks or Carlin. Too often they give social commentary without any humor. I prefer the more funny comedians (in my opinion), such as Emo Phillips and Jim Gaffigan.


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02-04-2011, 05:35 PM (This post was last modified: 02-04-2011 06:02 PM by jack_black_91.)
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RE: Is this a cybernetic tyrrany we live in?
(02-04-2011 02:05 PM)Bassbait Wrote:  
(02-04-2011 08:04 AM)jack_black_91 Wrote:  “Here is my final point. About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else. What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?” - Bill Hicks

Bill Hicks has a point, but I didn't find it funny. Sorry, no offense. I'm not a big fan of Hicks or Carlin. Too often they give social commentary without any humor. I prefer the more funny comedians (in my opinion), such as Emo Phillips and Jim Gaffigan.


I really do not like comedy thats on the media currently its all, how can i put this lightly. Garbage. No offence to fans out there, Russell Peter is way to over rated he uses the same racist jokes over and over. As matter of fact his entier stand up revolves around picking on race, culture and ethnic groups. And I find this boring. First there is only one race, the human race. It is said in order to counteract racism. And it is said to show how much all people have in common -- our "common humanity." In a nutshell, "race" is a socially constructed term that we use for convenience, and unfortunately, occasionally to oppress (as in the cases of segregation or genocide). My one friend has this excellent quote "Morbid thoughts manifest the hearts desires". To make fun of another so called "race" if that even valid phrase to use, it revieals his own insecurities.

What I like about Carlin and Hicks is that they really know how to raise common social issues in thier speeches and bring up topics that most of us don't wanna even disscuss or admit (taboo subjects). For example: Carlin's "Save the planet" saying the planet is fine, the people are fucked. He brings up a good point. Why should anyone have the conceit to save the planet we have our-selfs to worry about. People are arrogant in thinking controling the planets natural cycle is a good idea the truth is the opposite. No human funding has ever helped the planet it has made problems worse. I look at it this way if there is a lot of money involved it won't work. Which is pretty much all so called "wildlife fund" work on.

Its the truth behind the words that makes it funny.

If one thinks about it the native indians understood the blance and harmony of nature they were in-tune and amplifed this understanding. No violence, bigotry, religion just the understanding everything is "one". As long people have the 'right' to shop and consume they don't seem to be to concerned and are an unaware of the fact that thier " rights and freedoms" are slowly being taken away. (Materialism and mindless consumption) "The lights are on but nobody but no one is home" Curruption is all around us and it's plain to see and people don't seem to care to much they just tolerate it and go on with there life. Police commiting extortion on inncocent people, other people making demands on us that we can never make on them. Where is the equality? My question is: "where did we go wrong?"
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02-04-2011, 11:06 PM
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RE: Is this a cybernetic tyrrany we live in?
(02-04-2011 05:35 PM)jack_black_91 Wrote:  If one thinks about it the native indians understood the blance and harmony of nature they were in-tune and amplifed this understanding. No violence, bigotry, religion just the understanding everything is "one".

The Native Americans were definitely not a single unit, they were made up of many tribes and those tribes fought a lot.
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02-05-2011, 06:50 AM (This post was last modified: 02-05-2011 06:53 AM by leeko.)
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RE: Is this a cybernetic tyrrany we live in?
(02-03-2011 06:08 PM)Polesch Wrote:  I still don't see a problem with all this security, it won't do you any harm as long as you follow the rules. If you break the rules, you must expect to take the consequences, and security makes that easier for the state. The only reason you can possibly have for being against security, is that you want to get away after breaking the rules. Why would you want to do that? What if somebody did you harm, wouldn't you want him caught?

This a common belief that is dangerous. "If you're not doing anything then why worry?"

Plenty of our Founding Fathers said that anyone that would give up both liberty and freedom for security deserve neither and will ultimately lose both.

We have rights, you know. Here's one:

The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution states that the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.'
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02-05-2011, 11:24 AM
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RE: Is this a cybernetic tyrrany we live in?
(02-04-2011 02:05 PM)Bassbait Wrote:  
(02-04-2011 08:04 AM)jack_black_91 Wrote:  “Here is my final point. About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else. What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?” - Bill Hicks

Bill Hicks has a point, but I didn't find it funny. Sorry, no offense. I'm not a big fan of Hicks or Carlin. Too often they give social commentary without any humor. I prefer the more funny comedians (in my opinion), such as Emo Phillips and Jim Gaffigan.

I liked Bill Hicks social commentary, but he didn't make me laugh either. Marx Bros, Laurel & Hardy, Three Stooges, Eddie Izzard (before he sold out), Mitch Hedberg (before he died lol), Rik Mayall, even Henry Rollins ... they make me laugh.
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02-05-2011, 02:25 PM
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RE: Is this a cybernetic tyrrany we live in?
(02-05-2011 11:24 AM)robag Wrote:  
(02-04-2011 02:05 PM)Bassbait Wrote:  
(02-04-2011 08:04 AM)jack_black_91 Wrote:  “Here is my final point. About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else. What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?” - Bill Hicks

Bill Hicks has a point, but I didn't find it funny. Sorry, no offense. I'm not a big fan of Hicks or Carlin. Too often they give social commentary without any humor. I prefer the more funny comedians (in my opinion), such as Emo Phillips and Jim Gaffigan.

I liked Bill Hicks social commentary, but he didn't make me laugh either. Marx Bros, Laurel & Hardy, Three Stooges, Eddie Izzard (before he sold out), Mitch Hedberg (before he died lol), Rik Mayall, even Henry Rollins ... they make me laugh.

I definitely agree with Hedberg and Mayall.

I'm from America, so I have no clue how popular it is in UK, but have you seen The Young Ones? That's one of my favorite shows, but, at least in America, it's a cult show with not that many fans. Mayall does a great job in that show. I definitely recommend Emo Phillips. He's a genius, and he has a unique style of comedy that almost nobody has been able to catch besides him.


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02-05-2011, 05:14 PM (This post was last modified: 02-06-2011 04:43 AM by jack_black_91.)
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RE: Is this a cybernetic tyrrany we live in?
Here's a vid that I found interesting. It shows how poeple are becoming too submissive toward so called "national sercurity".

THE BIG BROTHER STATE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJTLL1UjvfU


Even though I don't follow politics Ron Paul is a damn good speaker. He supports independent news brodcasting like Alex Jones "www.infowars.com" check out his documentry "ENDGAME" which I found really intersting.

Ron Paul to Warmongers - Let me Get this Straight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPZoldXPl2A&feature=fvst
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02-06-2011, 05:06 AM
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RE: Is this a cybernetic tyrrany we live in?
(02-05-2011 02:25 PM)Bassbait Wrote:  
(02-05-2011 11:24 AM)robag Wrote:  
(02-04-2011 02:05 PM)Bassbait Wrote:  
(02-04-2011 08:04 AM)jack_black_91 Wrote:  “Here is my final point. About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else. What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?” - Bill Hicks

Bill Hicks has a point, but I didn't find it funny. Sorry, no offense. I'm not a big fan of Hicks or Carlin. Too often they give social commentary without any humor. I prefer the more funny comedians (in my opinion), such as Emo Phillips and Jim Gaffigan.

I liked Bill Hicks social commentary, but he didn't make me laugh either. Marx Bros, Laurel & Hardy, Three Stooges, Eddie Izzard (before he sold out), Mitch Hedberg (before he died lol), Rik Mayall, even Henry Rollins ... they make me laugh.

I definitely agree with Hedberg and Mayall.

I'm from America, so I have no clue how popular it is in UK, but have you seen The Young Ones? That's one of my favorite shows, but, at least in America, it's a cult show with not that many fans. Mayall does a great job in that show. I definitely recommend Emo Phillips. He's a genius, and he has a unique style of comedy that almost nobody has been able to catch besides him.

Bottom and the Young Ones still have massive fan bases here. I'll have to check out Emo.
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